Loco in Yokohama: #9 – Mentsu

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It is common to use メンツ in Japan. It is my understanding that the kanji 『面子』 is not used since this kanji is normally used when writing in Chinese. Those that play mahjong may be familiar with the word. The term “otoko no mentsu 『男のメンツ」is a common term in Japan but I think the term “menmoku”『面目』can also be used in the story. Japanese linguists, please feel free to provide additional information on mentsu. Now check out the latest from Loco in Yokohama, “It’s all about the mentsu メンツ baby” and be sure to leave him some feedback!

In America, it might be all about the Benjamins, but in Japan it’s all about the Mentsu メンツ. Mentsu, or Face for those of you not familiar with the concept, is very similar to what’s known as prestige or honor, or its downside, loss of face, which is akin to embarrassment or humiliation. In some Asian countries, it’s essential to protect and maintain face and avoid loss of face because it affects every facet of the quality of your life, including your status, power and influence among friends, family, co-workers, and the society at-large.

This giving, losing and taking of  Face is generally associated with Asian cultures, especially China, which is much less westernized than Japan and where face remains the number one motivation for doing most anything, or so I’m told by my friends of Chinese descent. In Japan, however, I think they have a watered down version of Face but still it has a very significant influence on the behavior of Japanese people, including, I theorize, their treatment of foreigners.

I for one refuse to build my whole life around the opinion of others, but I must say some of what I do and don’t do is definitely influenced by how it will affect my prestige. And though I’m apt to act a fool sometimes just for the hell of it, sometimes without even realizing it, I do tend to avoid embarrassment. That is, if by avoiding it I’m not sacrificing the achievement of goals I’ve set for myself.

Now, how does this concept of face affect my life here? As you might imagine, it’s difficult to say definitively. But, I have hypothesized the following based on my experience over the course of the past 5 years (and I’d be curious to hear what some of the Ex-Pats here think about this):

Most japanese avoid drawing attention to themselves and the incumbent embarrassment of being in the spotlight. However, westerners in Japan, by virtue of their strangeness, intentionally or not, invariably attract attention in a way that most Japanese wouldn’t wish on their worst enemies. We embody embarrassment, we’re walking talking losses of face…something most japanese would jump in front of the next Shinkansen (Bullet Train) to avoid becoming.

Also, while being with foreigners can raise one’s prestige, for the presumption is that if you are with them than you can communicate in what the japanese deem to be the universal language, English (very prestigious in japan) it can also have the undesirable effect of diminishing your prestige because you are seen as trying to stand out, not unlike a shameless, Mentsu-free foreigner. I’ve found that most Japanese feel foreigners have no concept of Mentsu, have no face to gain or lose, have no stake in Japanese society aside from their capacity to cause loss of face to the Japanese people they come in contact with…thus we are considered an anathema to most people here; and, in my opinion, will continue to be until the definition of Face changes.

The idea of Face dictates the Japanese interactions with foreigners, I believe. It has to. If you ever spend anytime with Japanese you will no doubt notice that they are in tuned with the thoughts and feelings of the people around them. Anytime a Japanese person speaks of his or her proclivities, the pronoun “We” is invariably used. I used to trip out on this “We” business. Who the hell was this “We”? This “We” is the strongest statement Japanese people make. It’ s a wall they’ve erected around their culture that cannot be scaled by foreigners (aside from other Asians engulfed in the culture). Sure, you can spray paint your name in graffiti on the walls, and sometimes if you’re clever or lucky or come across a traitor in their midst (there are a few, male and female) you might steal a glimpse over the wall. But for the most part foreigners are perpetually barred.

And this wall was erected in part for the sake of Mentsu.

In order to save face many Japanese will sacrifice much. And openness to and tolerance of foreigners, which serves little to no purpose to most Japanese, is an insignificant sacrifice most are willing to make.

Loco

4 Comments

  1. “Most japanese avoid drawing attention to themselves and the incumbent embarrassment of being in the spotlight.”

    Sorry, but I can’t agree with this. There is ample evidence that there are people who like to draw attention to themselves (check YouTube for a plethora of cases). You see people performing in Harajuku, busking outside of stations, singing karaoke (the ultimate way to get people to focus on you) and all of the loud and obnoxious people shouting on their cell phones. The Japanese like the spotlight as much as anyone as long as it comes at a time of their choosing.

    “…we are considered an anathema to most people here”

    I think this overstates our importance to Japanese culture. We aren’t important enough to rate such a status. To most people, we’re an annoyance or a curiosity. Some hate us. Some love us. Most just want to not be troubled by us. I don’t think we have the power to affect one’s status amongst their peers in any appreciable way.

    “(use of “we Japanese”) It’ s a wall they’ve erected around their culture that cannot be scaled by foreigners (aside from other Asians engulfed in the culture).”

    Other Asians don’t get included in Japanese culture. They just aren’t as easily excluded because they can’t be so easily picked out as being outsiders if they speak Japanese fluently or don’t talk at all. Again, I think believing the use of “we” is meant to keep us out places us more in a centralized position in Japanese life than we really are. They use “we” to elevate the status of their statements. They say it to convey the idea that all Japanese hold the same ideas as they do and live their lives in the same fashion. If anything, it helps them tamp down any insecurity they might feel when making an assertion (for fear of alienating others when expressing an idea). I think the use of “we” has everything to do with inclusion and insecurity and nothing to do with shutting us foreign folks out. Japanese people don’t like disagreement and I think a lot of foreigners like to debate. I think they are trying to give more backing to what they say in those situations or to defend some difference between you and them.

    I’m afraid that Loco is seeing a lot of what happens in Japan from a single perspective, that of a foreigner who is being reacted to rather than taking Japanese culture into account and seeing it from the perspective of someone who lives with the burdens (and benefits) of this culture. I’m pretty sure that I held similar gaijin-centric views when I had only been here for five years. Nearly twenty years on, my perspective has changed. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot of pushing away of foreigners and prejudice going on, I just don’t think that the ideas touched on in this piece have nearly as much to do with those issues as Loco does.

  2. hey Orchid,

    I said “most” not “all”. It’s kind of key, don’t you think? I don’t say ‘all’ about anything Japan. There will always be exceptions.

    So, unless you’re saying that the majority of Japanese are like those relative handful who want to shine, your point is additional information, not contradictory

    Loco

  3. i agree with a lot of what you said here, though i think it is a little gaijin-centric, as orchid said – i often talk to people about the japanese exclusion of foreigners too, but perhaps its more of an “inclusion” of japanese. we’re not really an anathaema….we’re just not even worth regarding…

    anyway, yet again good stuff.

    P.S. who the hell are the benjamins?? isn’t that a slang name for $100 notes or something?

    P.P.S. americans are just as bad really. this blog for example is from a “black” or “afro” perspective. another guy might have it from an emo perspective, or an “east coast perspecitive” or an “hispanic” perspective whatever. i think in britain, a black guy wouldn’t need to identify his perspective as different just because he’s black. (we just have class barriers instead, but i don’t care cos im at the top of the pile :P)

  4. With all due respect, I found the way you addressed Orchid’s concern really skirting the issue and a tad on the defensive side. Whether you say “all” or “most” is not the point. It’s still a generalization, and, I believe, a flawed one.

    In fact, I just can’t help but grimace whenever I read stuff that boldly claims that Japan Is This Way and Japan Is That Way. It makes for a really reductive depiction of a country. There are also a whole slew of assumptions in your argument, but in the interest of my sanity, I won’t go there. Let’s just say that I’d suggest to be wary of popular and non-academic “theories” that resemble your claims. Incidentally, being in Japan for 5 years is nothing if one has preconceptions that one selectively picks out evidence for, which happens to some people.

    But let’s put it another way. If we were for example to actually affirm this idea of Face, then what’s keeping us from applying it to Westerners? Why not say that the man who wants to keep up his appearance of masculinity- as so happens all the time- as also saving face? Ideas such as Face or Mentsu are more manipulate-able than you think.

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